it's like trying to do bob costas. he was like, why aren't you doing me? nice guy, does well, nothing there. >> he wanted you tow do it. >> he came up to me on hbo. i don't do great costas. i do a good one. he comes up to me. this is what e he said. you've got the great couple. you've got the great clinton, you've got the great gore, but you can't do me. you tried to do me and you failed utterly. then he takes a piece of paper o oust his pocket and he signs it and he hands it to me. he goes, here, try doing that. i go thought -- we've had a running gage over the years about it. i'm very fond of him. >> what was the breakthrough with gore. >> you know, we did three weekend updates the year before in dress rehearsal and got nothing because there's no hook. it was the first debate. >> and in that first debate -- >> in the first debate he came off as a school teacher talking down to children. >> i think this is very important moment for our country. we have achieved extraordinary prosperity, and in this election america has to make an important choice. >> that